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		<title>By: Look Mom, I&#8217;m an Author</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelmcderment.com/2005/11/09/from-the-web-20-trenches-how-to-build-real-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-36362</link>
		<dc:creator>Look Mom, I&#8217;m an Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A while back I got an email requesting the rights to reprint a blog post I wrote in November 2005 entitled, &#8220;From the Web 2.0 Trenches: How to Build Real Businesses&#8220;. It&#8217;s been a while since I heard from them, but we just got a copy of the book: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A while back I got an email requesting the rights to reprint a blog post I wrote in November 2005 entitled, &#8220;From the Web 2.0 Trenches: How to Build Real Businesses&#8220;. It&#8217;s been a while since I heard from them, but we just got a copy of the book: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How to Build Real Web Businesses</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Build Real Web Businesses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I’ve wanted to do this for a long time, but the “Bare Naked Apps” panel I was on at SXSW tipped me over the edge. So, as a precursor to that, here is something I wrote and posted in November 2005 which seems to be standing the test of time. (It’s quite long, stick with it if you can.) I’ll follow up with more posts over the next few days. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I’ve wanted to do this for a long time, but the “Bare Naked Apps” panel I was on at SXSW tipped me over the edge. So, as a precursor to that, here is something I wrote and posted in November 2005 which seems to be standing the test of time. (It’s quite long, stick with it if you can.) I’ll follow up with more posts over the next few days. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wake Up Web 2.0&#8230;and be Prepared to Spend</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelmcderment.com/2005/11/09/from-the-web-20-trenches-how-to-build-real-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-14125</link>
		<dc:creator>Wake Up Web 2.0&#8230;and be Prepared to Spend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This trend is something that was inevitable and it is something I touched on a while back in my From the Web 2.0 Trenches: How to Build Real Businesses post/essay last November. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This trend is something that was inevitable and it is something I touched on a while back in my From the Web 2.0 Trenches: How to Build Real Businesses post/essay last November. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be wiser to take heed of what the market thinks of Web 2.0:
from a recent poll
Web 2.0 is ...
* Web 2.0 is made of 600 million unwanted opinions in realtime - Paul Moore
* Web 2.0 is made entirely of pretentious self serving morons. - Max Irwin
* Web 2.0 is made of ...Magic pixie dust (a.k.a . Tim O&#039;Reilly&#039;s dandruff) - Jeramey Crawford
* Web 2.0 is the air for the next bubble - Paul.Witherow
* Web 2.0 is made of ... a lot of thin but very hot air blown at you by those who are convinced that having nothing to say is by no means a good reason to shut up. - Roon Micha
* Web 2.0 is made of ... a row boat made up of a rather large hole. - Ted Crafton
* Web 2.0 is made of ... more ways for providers to rip us off - Mike Bunyan
* Web 2.0 is made of ... millions upon millions of bandwagons, circled into one giant investor cluster-f**k - Richard Ellis
* Web 2.0 is made of...the easily led - Colin Jackson
... a very amusing survey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be wiser to take heed of what the market thinks of Web 2.0:<br />
from a recent poll<br />
Web 2.0 is &#8230;<br />
* Web 2.0 is made of 600 million unwanted opinions in realtime &#8211; Paul Moore<br />
* Web 2.0 is made entirely of pretentious self serving morons. &#8211; Max Irwin<br />
* Web 2.0 is made of &#8230;Magic pixie dust (a.k.a . Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s dandruff) &#8211; Jeramey Crawford<br />
* Web 2.0 is the air for the next bubble &#8211; Paul.Witherow<br />
* Web 2.0 is made of &#8230; a lot of thin but very hot air blown at you by those who are convinced that having nothing to say is by no means a good reason to shut up. &#8211; Roon Micha<br />
* Web 2.0 is made of &#8230; a row boat made up of a rather large hole. &#8211; Ted Crafton<br />
* Web 2.0 is made of &#8230; more ways for providers to rip us off &#8211; Mike Bunyan<br />
* Web 2.0 is made of &#8230; millions upon millions of bandwagons, circled into one giant investor cluster-f**k &#8211; Richard Ellis<br />
* Web 2.0 is made of&#8230;the easily led &#8211; Colin Jackson<br />
&#8230; a very amusing survey!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelmcderment.com/2005/11/09/from-the-web-20-trenches-how-to-build-real-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hi Michael-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoyed your article, web2ChroniclesVolumeOne.pdf.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am looking forward to participating with you in your blog and sharing ideas about Web 2.0&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All best-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gary Baker&lt;br /&gt;Founder&lt;br /&gt;ClipBlast.com&lt;br /&gt;(former consultant, IBM Global Services)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hi Michael-</p>
<p>Enjoyed your article, web2ChroniclesVolumeOne.pdf.  </p>
<p>Am looking forward to participating with you in your blog and sharing ideas about Web 2.0</p>
<p>All best-</p>
<p>Gary Baker<br />Founder<br />ClipBlast.com<br />(former consultant, IBM Global Services)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burgess</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelmcderment.com/2005/11/09/from-the-web-20-trenches-how-to-build-real-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its nice to hear an intelligent opinion for a change! Web based development was an area that I felt was getting cluttered and dark. Thank you for an enlightening post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its nice to hear an intelligent opinion for a change! Web based development was an area that I felt was getting cluttered and dark. Thank you for an enlightening post!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Paget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Paget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Boris...you are soooo creative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Michael - interesting take on all this &quot;Web 2.0&quot; nonsense.  I think there is some real value in here for companies who are trying to see their way through it all and your emphasis on tried and true business practices is refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Boris&#8230;you are soooo creative.</p>
<p>Michael &#8211; interesting take on all this &quot;Web 2.0&quot; nonsense.  I think there is some real value in here for companies who are trying to see their way through it all and your emphasis on tried and true business practices is refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 decades of software history has shown that coitus-interuptus terms like &quot;web 2&quot; are the fog before something solid and bug free like &quot;web 3.1&quot; is released in the next 3 to 5 yrs. O&#039;r.. and others are just posting this stuff to generate self-serving revenue since they don&#039;t have anything creative to talk about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 decades of software history has shown that coitus-interuptus terms like &quot;web 2&quot; are the fog before something solid and bug free like &quot;web 3.1&quot; is released in the next 3 to 5 yrs. O&#039;r.. and others are just posting this stuff to generate self-serving revenue since they don&#039;t have anything creative to talk about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Good read Mike.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me, Web 2.0 is all about people (developers, designers, entrepreneurs) DOING what everybody talked about being able to do back in 2000. Finally web browsers, servers, language support are at a level to provide  useful tools and services to the fast growing numbers of sophistiated web users.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Good read Mike.</p>
<p>To me, Web 2.0 is all about people (developers, designers, entrepreneurs) DOING what everybody talked about being able to do back in 2000. Finally web browsers, servers, language support are at a level to provide  useful tools and services to the fast growing numbers of sophistiated web users.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McDerment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McDerment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don&#039;t think much of Web 2.0 in and of itself.  I thought that was clear, but perhaps it is not. That said, I cannot deny the &quot;trends&quot; that are emeging that people are labeling Web 2.0.  That&#039;s  all Web 2.0 is to me - a label for trends.  The trends aren&#039;t even all that remarkable in their own right, but they are undeniable and they will change the way people leverage the internet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as this post is concerned.  I&#039;m just interested in helping businesses negotiate/navigate the trends that are emerging...If this post is useful to a business or two, than it will have served some purpose and I&#039;ll be pleased.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#039;t think much of Web 2.0 in and of itself.  I thought that was clear, but perhaps it is not. That said, I cannot deny the &quot;trends&quot; that are emeging that people are labeling Web 2.0.  That&#039;s  all Web 2.0 is to me &#8211; a label for trends.  The trends aren&#039;t even all that remarkable in their own right, but they are undeniable and they will change the way people leverage the internet.</p>
<p>As far as this post is concerned.  I&#039;m just interested in helping businesses negotiate/navigate the trends that are emerging&#8230;If this post is useful to a business or two, than it will have served some purpose and I&#039;ll be pleased.&#8221;</p>
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